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Ben Cantrick
  Date: 2006-01-18 06:25
  Subject:   This better be a mistake...
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Two deploying soldiers and a concerned mother reported Friday afternoon that the U.S. Army appears to be singling out soldiers who have purchased Pinnacle's Dragon Skin Body Armor for special treatment. The soldiers, who are currently staging for combat operations from a secret location, reported that their commander told them if they were wearing Pinnacle Dragon Skin and were killed their beneficiaries might not receive the death benefits from their $400,000 SGLI life insurance policies. The soldiers were ordered to leave their privately purchased body armor at home or face the possibility of both losing their life insurance benefit and facing disciplinary action.

http://www.sftt.org/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screenKey=cmpDefense&htmlCategoryID=30&htmlId=4514

Because, god knows, we wouldn't want our soliders to actually have effective body armor. Cuz, you know, we ENJOY sending them into situations where they're going to be shot at, and then forbiding them from taking the best body armor available. Purchased out of their own pockets for in excess of $5,000, none the less.

This Pinnacle Armor Inc Dragon Skin is good stuff. It's superior in both bullet stopping power and in flexibility to standard military issue OTV/SAPI vests. I can think of no rational reason whatsoever that the armed services would not want their troops wearing it. The only reason I can think of that someone in command might forbid wearing the stuff is that they simply do not give a damn about the lives of our troops, and are perfectly happy to see them die because they are wearing inferior body armor.
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Pacchi
  User: pacchi
  Date: 2006-01-19 00:00 (UTC)
  Subject:   Grrr, money grabbing defense contractor bastards
Just because you haven't bothered to R&D anything better in 20-30 years, it doesn't mean you should lobby your uncle in the Pentagon to fiddle with people's lives and legacy...

$5000 not spent by the government on a soldier, per soldier, is quite a savings, if I were in charge (at a low enough level to not be able to issue a mass withdrawl proposition, but high enough to make some sort of quatermastering decision), I'd issue every soldier that brought in a receipt and functioning example of the Dragonskin, a 5% cash rebate, which would cover the cost of supplying them with an issue vest (probably) and offer a further bonus for every other soldier kitted out by the same family/soldier, for helping to gear up others. As for life insurance, I am of the position that since the poor college money kids just trying to get out of the getto got more than they bargained for anyway, every injury on foreign soil should incur a bonus package sent back home, and every death also have a payout. Otherwise, prevent all recruiters from promising anything other than rigorous physical exercise, the opportunity to "cap some foreigner ass" and incompetent management.

Of course, once I know they HAVE this body armour, I'd be more tempted to use them to cover the convoys that any good guerilla worth his bananas knows to attack in preference to standing fast in the middle of a "counter-insurgency" trench charge... I mean... campaign...

my 2c

- P
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Pacchi
  User: pacchi
  Date: 2006-01-19 00:22 (UTC)
  Subject:   actually to clarify my position...
In my zeal to be sarcastic and cynical, I often neglect to portray my actual position with any accuracy whatsoever. I think the war is a stupid idea, but what I'm REALLY disgusted with is anybody involved who thinks American soldiers can survive on just courage and booze alone. Soldiers are not special, they have to have support and backup and proper equipment.

If the decision came down to do something stupid, at least do it well, and with overwhelming force pushing for an early resolution, not to mention a very high regard for the safety of the unlucky economic draftees ordered to do it. At least then they'd have a chance of surviving long enough to point a finger and laugh "Hah-hah" at the international scorn levied on the stupid-decision makers... no names now...*cough*

There is a similar issue with snipers not getting enough equipment, such as personal radios, or frikkin lens wipes. These people are supposed to be keeping their buddies from having to operate in high profile teams to take out the same targets, let's spare some cash from the payout-fund to kit em out huh?

Hmm... I really should ramble in a forum full of the people who might benefit or improve the situation by listening, but I really can't argue with religious zeal, and I find trying to argue with people who view religious dogma and current social moralistic trends as being on the same level as properly researched, documented and peer-reviewed scientific evidence supremely frustating. (nobody bring up the SK cloning fiasco, because the class of evidence I am referring to is not the sort published in the last journal, but has had years of competitors trying to disprove, or at least replicating the results backing it up)

Hmm, anyway, this is what waaaay too many bored hours at work reading googlenews will do to you.

Make you post incoherently on a blog.

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-P

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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-01-19 08:16 (UTC)
  Subject:   That's just crazy talk, all that logic and common sense!
If the decision came down to do something stupid, at least do it well, and with overwhelming force pushing for an early resolution, not to mention a very high regard for the safety of the unlucky economic draftees ordered to do it. At least then they'd have a chance of surviving long enough to point a finger and laugh "Hah-hah" at the international scorn levied on the stupid-decision makers... no names now...*cough*

"Overwhelming force" was the Powell doctrine, which was roundly rejected by the Bush Admn. They're so stupid it tears me. First, we'll do a half-assed invasion and claim to be greeted as liberators. Then, we'll deny anything's going wrong even when we're being car-bombed daily. Then we'll have no criteria for victory and no exit strategy. While we're at it, let's deny our troops good body armor! Capitol!

That many people still believe Bush is acting in the best interests of the average soldier, much less the US as a whole, is mind-boggling. The American electorate truly is too damn stupid to live.
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