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The wanderings of a modern ronin.

Ben Cantrick
  Date: 2006-06-06 04:32
  Subject:   [/.] Microsoft OSen: Broken As Designed.
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  Mood:sweet poetic justice
  Music:http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006202.html
MICROSOFT executives love telling stories against each other. Here's one that platforms vice-president Jim Allchin told at a recent Windows Vista reviewers conference about chief executive Steve Ballmer.

It seems Steve was at a friend's wedding reception when the bride's father complained that his PC had slowed to a crawl and would Steve mind taking a look. Allchin, says Ballmer, the world's 13th wealthiest man with a fortune of about $18 billion, spent almost two days trying to rid the PC of worms, viruses, spyware, malware and severe fragmentation without success.

He lumped the thing back to Microsoft's headquarters and turned it over to a team of top engineers, who spent several days on the machine, finding it infected with more than 100 pieces of malware, some of which were nearly impossible to eradicate. Among the problems was a program that automatically disabled any antivirus software. "This really opened our eyes to what goes on in the real world," Allchin told the audience.


http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,19345228%5E15865%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html

So even M$ couldn't get rid of the spyware their crap security OS (and even-worse-than-crap security browser) let onto the machine. Oh, the hilarity!


The punchline:

Ballmer and Allchin didn't get to be such wealthy executives by ignoring a business opportunity, so last week, Microsoft launched Windows Live OneCare.

So now you get to pay Microsoft TWICE - once for crappy software that bends over and grabs its ankles at every corner of The Internets, and then again for virtual penicillin to get rid of the resulting infections!

Brilliant!! Schlock Mercenary would be so proud!


P.S. Know why there's not a *single* piece of spyware on my Windoze 98 box? Because I DON'T USE IE, and then I TURNED OFF JAVASCRIPT IN MY NON-IE BROWSER, and KEPT IT OFF ALWAYS. (Exceptions: Google Video and YouTube. Firefox's NoScript extension allows me to temporarily allow only the single page I'm looking at to run JavaScript. It's a larger risk that I'd like to take, but so far I've been lucky.)

Of course, *you* won't do this. Because A) it's simple, B) it actually works and C) without JavaScript, you won't be able to click on "People Magazine's Worst Celebrity Nose-hair of the Millenium" poll. And god knows, we couldn't have that, now could we??
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Coinneach Fitzpatrick
  User: scarybaldguy
  Date: 2006-06-06 05:06 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Fucking awesome. Break their legs, then sell them crutches.
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Alex Belits: iskra
  User: abelits
  Date: 2006-06-06 06:00 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Keyword:iskra
As I have said before about this crap,

Where is my Windows box, again?

Speaking of which, Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is out.

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Mike Agney
  User: magney
  Date: 2006-06-06 11:11 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
I also have not a single piece of spyware on my XP box, and I do use IE, and I do have Javascript enabled. But then, I also am a lot more savvy about what websites I go to and I don't surf too far outside of my comfort zone. That doesn't work for most people, and sooner or later will probably get me too.

Sooo... I take it you don't use GMail, then?
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Jon
  User: j_b
  Date: 2006-06-06 13:20 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
You can use GMail from Lynx. :)
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-06-06 18:23 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
I wouldn't touch it for a long time, but someone I wanted to talk to started using gchat so I finally had to enable JScript just long enough to make an account and set it to auto-forward to my main address. Haven't logged in since.
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-06-06 18:30 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
I also am a lot more savvy about what websites I go to and I don't surf too far outside of my comfort zone.

That good old Microsoft insularity has set in already. Did they give you a nice "welcome" 3 stack rank on yor first eval? Hahaha.

So, you "don't surf too far outside your comfort zone"? That's your solution?? Don't visit websites that might be dangerous, because the browser you use is such crap it might get you cyber-mugged?

If there weren't better, safer alternatives, that might be a reasonable stance. But given the options, it strikes me as something pretty close to cowardice. Do you not drive your car through puddles either?
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Mike Agney
  User: magney
  Date: 2006-06-07 03:53 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
It's not my solution, it's my habit. I also use Firefox, and I don't go to any more websites with that than I do with IE.

I also remind you that the only two times my computer has ever been compromised, it was running Linux at the time.
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