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[/.] I, for one, welcome our new Nipponese moon-men overlords. - Adventures in Engineering — LiveJournal
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Ben Cantrick
  Date: 2006-08-03 21:25
  Subject:   [/.] I, for one, welcome our new Nipponese moon-men overlords.
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The Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) announced at a conference that they are planning to build a Moonbase by 2030. Since JAXA doesn't currently have a 100 ton-class heavy lift rocket or a human transportation system perhaps now is a good time for JAXA to join in with NASA on the Project Constellation rocket program.

http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9658-japan-aims-for-moon-base-by-2030-.html


Apparently all your moon base will no longer belong to US...
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  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2006-08-05 02:12 (UTC)
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Well, the article mentions it, but JAXA has had some embarassing moments the last few years when it's come to their space program. It sounds ambitious and all sci-fi cool, but I dunno... That and it's 25 year years into the future so I'm not holding my breath either.

-J
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-08-05 03:53 (UTC)
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I'm just skeptical that anyone can sustain a moonbase at this point. Even assuming we can extract air and water from moon rocks... what are they going to eat? Are we going to ship them a hundred tons of earth soil so they can establish their own biosphere and grow their own plants? Or are we going to ship them a hundred tons of freeze-dried stuff?

Either way you're looking at getting 100 tons of something to the moon, probably once a decade at a minimum. It costs approximately $10,000 to put each pound in orbit. I'll assume that transit to the moon from there is cheap enough to not worry about it too much. Well, you can do the math on the recurring cost of a moonbase... I don't think our government would pay for it.
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  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2006-08-05 18:01 (UTC)
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Yeah. What I'm curious is to see if the 'moonbase' is going to be closer to the space station except that it will just be on the moon instead of in orbit. And, I'm also thinking that it might be JAXA's thinking that, in 25-30 years, improvements in technology will provide for the 100 ton rocket (or, likely, better).

I guess the crux is what they mean, exactly, by a 'crewed lunar base'. It makes it sound like there will be a staff that mans the base at all times, but like you said, I'm not sure how feasible that is. If, on the other hand, it's going to be like the space station, maybe it's not so far fetched.

At least, according to Wiki, the presence of ISS places permanent human presence in space because it's had at least 2 members occupying it since the first permanent crew occupied it in late 2000. They've managed to keep that going so a lunar base in another three decades might seem a possible goal.

We really should be asking Sandy about this, I think, heh.


-J
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  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2006-08-05 18:09 (UTC)
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Here's a belated response to your new icon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKu_QA8Bn9o

I hope you go blind or deaf or something!


-J
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-08-05 22:34 (UTC)
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OH GAWD, MY EYES!!! MY BEAUTIFUL EYES!!!

Well played, sir, well played...
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  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2006-08-05 18:36 (UTC)
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Oh, oh, the following I call "The Japanese are going to wtfbbqpwn u at Paintball" or "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Galactic Empire".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVwbUljGs3g


-J
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-08-05 22:33 (UTC)
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This is the lamest thing ever. I've seen it many times and it makes me ashamed to be a Battletech fan. If I ever find time to work on the exoskeleton and manage to get that working, it'll only be a matter of time before I scale it up to something like that... but that will ACTUALLY WALK. No shuffle like the retarded spawn of a car and an ostrich.
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  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2006-08-06 05:53 (UTC)
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Yeah, true. I'm sure that it's just wheels underneath it. Which makes the walking motion completely retarded if the thing is just being propelled by wheels under what are supposed to be its legs.

-J
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