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Ben Cantrick
  Date: 2006-08-13 22:00
  Subject:   Kinesis ergo keyboards.
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http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm

Look at how straight, natural and unstressed the wrists and shoulders are using one of these. I can't believe this isn't the standard keyboard everywhere. Are we really so stupid that we're willing to destroy the joints that allow us to type (and thus, make our living) just because it might make our keyboard look a little funny? Even better than the ergos, though, is the fact that this kb doesn't have that @#$%ing obnoxious number pad that makes it impossible to position your mouse comfortably! If you really think you need one (and when WAS the last time you used your keyboard's numpad?) it could be put in the middle of this keyboard between the two halves. The only problem I see with these is the price - I refuse to believe that $300 worth of parts and labor went into one.

(Spotted on bramcohen.)
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dpcfmander
  User: dpcfmander
  Date: 2006-08-14 00:13 (UTC)
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:drools:

I think I could like that! Or even a knock off from Ebay.... I guess I will start saving my pennies and hold off on buying the natural keyboard thing.
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  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2006-08-14 01:20 (UTC)
  Subject:   Comfort comes with a price...
but so should functionality. I think this keyboard and the OLED tech of Artemy Lebedev Studios (http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus) should come together for global dominance. Then maybe it'll warrant the price.

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- Liam
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Willow: Cartoon Willow
  User: willow_red
  Date: 2006-08-14 03:06 (UTC)
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That looks kind of interesting. I find most "ergonomic" keyboards to be far more uncomfortable than the "normal" ones, but this one looks a bit better than average. As for the number keypad, I for one use it nearly every day, so I challenge your generalization there, though I acknowledge that I'm probably in the minority.
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Not Matt
  User: jameshroberts
  Date: 2006-08-14 03:54 (UTC)
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I could swear I've seen numpads as an attachment you can buy. That would be more convenient than having it permanently affixed to the right side of the keyboard. Sometimes I use mine a lot, but at other times it does kind of get in the way. It would be nice to have the option to move it around.
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-08-15 02:09 (UTC)
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As for the number keypad, I for one use it nearly every day, so I challenge your generalization there

I'm curious to know, what do you use it for? I have an HP-48 emulator on my machine (excellent, I recommend it) and that's the only thing I use the numpad for.
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Willow: Cartoon Willow
  User: willow_red
  Date: 2006-08-15 03:12 (UTC)
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I do a lot of simple numerical analysis and simulations at work. Nearly all of this is done in Excel *waits for the shuddering of all who read this*. When I'm running a simulation for a series of numbers (for example, solar array power output at a variety of angles to the sun), or on my current project, where I'm recording daily voltages on 24 battery cells to look at self-discharge rates, the number keypad is at least an order of magnitude easier than the row of numbers across the top of the keyboard.

Also, it probably helps that when I was in seventh grade, I came up with a fast touch-typing scheme for the number keypad so I could add up grocery receipts for a school funding program without looking. The kicker is that I learned how to type fast on the number keypad about four years before managing to beat 15 WPM on the main keyboard.

And that was probably a more detailed answer than you wanted, but there you have it.
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-08-15 03:37 (UTC)
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Can't see anything particularly wrong with Excel for simple, light-duty stuff.

Anyway, you do a lot of numerical data entry. For that purpose a numpad is perfectly suited, and I can see why you use it.
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  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2006-08-16 14:13 (UTC)
  Subject:   logitech
I got one of these to shorten the distance, its been fun.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2158,CONTENTID=10777&ad=hpb_dinovolaser

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Trevor Stone: shadow self portrait
  User: flwyd
  Date: 2006-08-16 14:59 (UTC)
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My manager uses one of those. It's rather formidable if you try to type something. The letters are all in the same place, but punctuation turns into a game of hunt and peck that feels like it's being played on the moon. Of course, it's no worse than trying a different keyboard layout. Having figured it all out, of course, he really likes it.

I actually find the IBM Lenovo ThinkPad keyboard to be really comfortable, and as a bonus it has a mouse between my index fingers and buttons by my thumbs so I can avoid the un-ergonomic Microsoft mouse.

My most important ergonomic move at work was putting my computer on a box and mouse on a stack of books so that I can stand up while I program. My hands are fine, but my back was preventing me from having fun.
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