?

Log in

No account? Create an account
[MeFi] "Driving with cash" is now a crime, - Adventures in Engineering — LiveJournal
The wanderings of a modern ronin.

Ben Cantrick
  Date: 2006-08-21 19:51
  Subject:   [MeFi] "Driving with cash" is now a crime,
Public
  Mood:Police State America
  Music:Consolidated - Friendly Fascism
A federal appeals court ruled yesterday that if a motorist is carrying large sums of money, it is automatically subject to confiscation. In the case entitled, "United States of America v. $124,700 in U.S. Currency," the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit took that amount of cash away from Emiliano Gomez Gonzolez, a man with a "lack of significant criminal history" neither accused nor convicted of any crime.

On May 28, 2003, a Nebraska state trooper signaled Gonzolez to pull over his rented Ford Taurus on Interstate 80. The trooper intended to issue a speeding ticket, but noticed the Gonzolez's name was not on the rental contract. The trooper then proceeded to question Gonzolez -- who did not speak English well -- and search the car. The trooper found a cooler containing $124,700 in cash, which he confiscated. A trained drug sniffing dog barked at the rental car and the cash. For the police, this was all the evidence needed to establish a drug crime that allows the force to keep the seized money.

Associates of Gonzolez testified in court that they had pooled their life savings to purchase a refrigerated truck to start a produce business. Gonzolez flew on a one-way ticket to Chicago to buy a truck, but it had sold by the time he had arrived. Without a credit card of his own, he had a third-party rent one for him. Gonzolez hid the money in a cooler to keep it from being noticed and stolen. He was scared when the troopers began questioning him about it. There was no evidence disputing Gonzolez's story.

Yesterday the Eighth Circuit summarily dismissed Gonzolez's story. It overturned a lower court ruling that had found no evidence of drug activity, stating, "We respectfully disagree and reach a different conclusion... Possession of a large sum of cash is 'strong evidence' of a connection to drug activity."


http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/12/1296.asp

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

There is only one piece of evidence here that would even suggest that there were drugs involved, and that is the dog barked at the money. Do you know WHY the drug dog barked at all that cash? Because four out of five bills are contaminated with traces of cocaine!

This better go to the Supreme Court.
Post A Comment | 10 Comments | | Link






Coinneach Fitzpatrick
  User: scarybaldguy
  Date: 2006-08-21 20:35 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
If it goes to SCOTUS, it will be upheld.
Reply | Thread | Link



Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-08-21 20:56 (UTC)
  Subject:   Gawd I hope not...
They've shown a small amount of intelligence slapping Bush right in the face over his imprisonment without charge antics. Maybe they'll figure this one out too. But, if not, at least I can use it as another example (on the Mt. Everest sized pile) of why the government of the US are a bunch of nuke-worthy fuckheads.
Reply | Parent | Thread | Link



Coinneach Fitzpatrick
  User: scarybaldguy
  Date: 2006-08-21 21:04 (UTC)
  Subject:   Re: Gawd I hope not...
.gov loves them some Asset Forfeiture. Taking $10,000 cash through Customs is also a crime, since only drug dealers have that kind of cash on hand.

Hurrah for TWOSD!
Reply | Parent | Thread | Link



  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2006-08-21 23:13 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Hey, you know how we were talking the other night about the fall of Roman civilization, a partial cause of which, was the prevalence of lead in their daily lives?

Well, we've found the cause of what will be our downfall. Cocaine laced currency!


-J
Reply | Thread | Link



Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-08-22 01:31 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
I think I mentioned the problem of "sappa" as the way the Roman aristocracy got their massive doses of lead. Here's where I read it. (Funny the things you learn reading webcomics!)

http://zoo.nightstar.net/viewtopic.php?t=15167&sid=13699b9420208588732f15822016fafa

Search for "sappa", it's about 3/4 of the way down, just above my post.
Reply | Parent | Thread | Link



Triggur
  User: triggur
  Date: 2006-08-22 00:24 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Unbelievable. And people wonder why I've got my app to Canada in...
Reply | Thread | Link



osmium_ocelot: Konoko
  User: osmium_ocelot
  Date: 2006-08-22 01:04 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Keyword:Konoko
When I took my big trip (PA, WI, CO, CA) and came out your way, I was carrying about 14k in cash. On me. I wasn't worried about being robbed (do I look like I have money?) on the streets anywhere. I was only worried about having money stolen in my hotel room (which is why it was on me) OR being pulled aside at airport security and having them not believe me when I said "I'm looking for a place to call home. If I find it, I want to be able to stay."

And speaking of drug sniffing dogs... There is nothing more fearsome than coming back from a trip to Europe at age 17 and having the dog ram its head straight into your crotch. Especially when you're carrying a long shipping tube that contains a sword... a tube that's mysteriously broken open sometime in-flight and might be holding something somebody else put in it...
Reply | Thread | Link



Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-08-22 01:35 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
When I took my big trip (PA, WI, CO, CA) and came out your way, I was carrying about 14k in cash. On me.

Yeah, I remember seeing the bundles. I said it then, and I'll say it again now: Traveller's Checks! Don't have to put all your money in a bank, just two or three K, and then you can tak it right back out again in traveler's checks. Much less risky than carrying cash.

There is nothing more fearsome than coming back from a trip to Europe at age 17 and having the dog ram its head straight into your crotch.

Do you suppose the handlers train them to do that on purpose?

Normal person: "Ahhh! Oh gawd, my nuts!!! (falls over)"

Crack addict: "Huh? What? Did something hit me?"

;D
Reply | Parent | Thread | Link



osmium_ocelot: Konoko
  User: osmium_ocelot
  Date: 2006-08-23 01:06 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Keyword:Konoko
my response was to freeze in absolute terror
Reply | Parent | Thread | Link



Alex Belits
  User: abelits
  Date: 2006-08-22 14:16 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Usually I am not surprised when government does something monumentally stupid and/or damaging -- my impression is that its numerous branches and levels are full of idiots, fanatics, control freaks and various kinds of crooks. This however still managed to surprise me.
Reply | Thread | Link



browse
May 2015