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Ben Cantrick
  Date: 2006-10-26 19:22
  Subject:   [/.] DeBeers shits itself, film at 11.
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Adia Diamonds (among others) is offering to the public completely lab-made, but even more flawless than mined, real diamonds. These diamonds weren't made by environment trashing strip-mining, or the exploitation of poor Africans. And since they were made in a lab, they're guaranteed not to have been "conflict diamonds", often used to finance civil wars and terrorism in the third world. And did I mention that you can get them for a fraction of the cost of a mined diamond, even though they're bigger and have fewer flaws?

It's going to be very interesting to see how the major diamond cartel, DeBeers, tries to tackle this one. They have a long history of media manipulation and market monopoly maintenance. We'll see if people are stupid enough to swallow the DeBeers marketing and continue paying way more money for diamonds that are smaller, have more flaws, and don't let you select exactly the color that you want...
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Triggur
  User: triggur
  Date: 2006-10-26 21:27 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Yeah, that rocks. I've been watching the ongoing development of these things... they can now make quite large diamonds and as you said, remarkably flawless.

And yes, DeBeers are shitting themselves. They've put out a program to help 'educate' people how to spot 'fake' diamonds.

I would love to see these people walk all over DeBeers. I'd love to see DeBeers' giant warehouses filled with artificial-scarcity diamonds become comparatively worthless.

But most of all I want diamond-substrate chips. Bring it on, baby. :)
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-10-26 21:55 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
But most of all I want diamond-substrate chips.

Hell yes. The massive multicore spawnoff shows how much we're running up against the barriers of silicon. It's time to let the materials scientists work their magic again...
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Trevor Stone: rose red sky blue
  User: flwyd
  Date: 2006-10-26 21:28 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Keyword:rose red sky blue
Exactly the color you want, eh? Think of the goth possibilities with black diamonds, the gay engagement ring with a rainbow diamond, diamond earrings to match her hair or eye color... I can dig it.

Part of the attraction of a diamond is how much it costs; the traditional man-gives-woman-diamond demonstrates he's willing to spend lots of money on her. If it's diamond-a-dozen, suitors will have to find another "Look how rich I am" present. Like a live Panda or something.
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-10-26 22:15 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Part of the attraction of a diamond is how much it costs; the traditional man-gives-woman-diamond demonstrates he's willing to spend lots of money on her. If it's diamond-a-dozen, suitors will have to find another "Look how rich I am" present. Like a live Panda or something.

I totally agree, but just try telling that to a woman. Half of them will act all shocked and indignant and shit: "You can't BUY my love!" Diamonds will stick around as a romantic status symbol for at least another decade due to this kind of emotional inertia.
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Not Matt
  User: jameshroberts
  Date: 2006-10-26 21:52 (UTC)
  Subject:   From "Family Guy"s' spoof of the DeBeers commercials
Diamonds.
She'll pretty much have to.

Funnier with the visuals but you get it.

Rubies have always been rarer than diamonds, but DeBeers managed to convince the world that diamonds are the only acceptable rock for such an occasion.
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MikeRo
  User: mrothermel
  Date: 2006-10-26 22:16 (UTC)
  Subject:   flaws
they are putting flaws inside of CZ's so
that they look more real.

Conflict diamonds = no.

But, even environmental hippie chicks want
the real thing. Bizarre this whole societal
expectation thing.
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-10-26 22:25 (UTC)
  Subject:   Re: flaws
But, even environmental hippie chicks want the real thing.

And now, they can, without supporting all the anti-environment and dehumanizing crap that DeBeers intentionally causes.

Bizarre this whole societal expectation thing.

People so have no clue what they really want.
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  User: nickhalfasleep
  Date: 2006-10-26 22:33 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
I think when De Beer's has to ratchet up the PR machine about their diamonds with their "flaws" and laser etched markings (another flaw), the whole strength of diamonds and their value falls.

Since I'm looking, I'll look to these first.
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Nikkou
  User: jumblies
  Date: 2006-10-27 01:39 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)

It's going to be like cultured and natural pearls. There is a price difference, but the cultured ones aren't cheap. And yes, there will always be some people who like the frisson of having The Real Thing, much like insisting on 24K gold toilets in their mansions.
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Willow: Black Rose
  User: willow_red
  Date: 2006-10-27 16:04 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Keyword:Black Rose
I'm glad to see this technology taking off. There are a lot of applications out there that would like a pure carbon crystal (or one with specified impurities). And given the crap DeBeers has been pulling for decades, they've earned this one.

*checks out Adia site* Dang, that's considered cheap?!? I don't think I want to know what "real" diamonds cost. Of course, this from someone who thinks cut glass is just as pretty, and spending a good fraction of your income on a rock is kind of silly....
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