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Ben Cantrick
  Date: 2006-11-02 10:27
  Subject:   [MeFi] The anti-Lynndie.
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"Peterson objected to the interrogation techniques used on prisoners. She refused to participate after only two nights working in the unit known as the cage. Army spokespersons for her unit have refused to describe the interrogation techniques Alyssa objected to. They say all records of those techniques have now been destroyed..."

She was was then assigned to the base gate, where she monitored Iraqi guards, and sent to suicide prevention training. "But on the night of September 15th, 2003, Army investigators concluded she shot and killed herself with her service rifle," the documents disclose.

The Army talked to some of Peterson's colleagues. Asked to summarize their comments, Elston told E&P: "The reactions to the suicide were that she was having a difficult time separating her personal feelings from her professional duties. That was the consistent point in the testimonies, that she objected to the interrogation techniques, without describing what those techniques were."

Elston said that the documents also refer to a suicide note found on her body, revealing that she found it ironic that suicide prevention training had taught her how to commit suicide. He has now filed another FOIA request for a copy of the actual note.


http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003345862


It's OK, I'm sure nothing that went on in Abu Graib under Bush was THAT bad. I mean, it's not like soldiers are so disturbed that they're killing themselves after seeing what went on in there. Oh, wait...

But don't worry - the torture bill that Congress passed last month safely shields anyone who commited acts of torture from prosecution. Rest assured no matter how horrible it was, they will get away with it, no problem. The laws are already on the books.

Keep authorizing your despot-in-chief to do anything he wants, no matter how unconstitutional or inhuman, there, America!
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McKavian
  User: mckavian
  Date: 2006-11-02 19:21 (UTC)
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A buddy of mine was over in the sandbox as a coroner. They went into the basement of a house where there were 200+ bodies. They are not sure how many, to be honest. The lucky ones were shot in the head. There were knives, wires, batteries, and other things. The rest had things done to them that he refused to talk about. Women, children, infants.

His OIC and he walked back out of the basement before they could get started cleaning it up. With out saying anything, the OIC, a major, took out his service pistol and shot himself in the head. Yeah, suicides happen there. Sometimes with reason. I duno if I could live with those images in my head either.
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-11-02 19:25 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Every time I think that the hellhole that is Iraq couldn't possibly get any worse for our soldiers... somehow it does.

Fuck.
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McKavian
  User: mckavian
  Date: 2006-11-02 19:31 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
I could tell you about some of the things that my roommate went through over there if you like.
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-11-02 20:54 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
I appreciate the offer, but I think I already have at least ten lifetimes worth of reasons to instantly disembowel any politician who thinks it's still a good idea to keep our troops in Iraq...
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McKavian
  User: mckavian
  Date: 2006-11-02 21:07 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
You know I am an ex-soldier, right? Military police.

I think you might know where I am going with this. We should have finished this in DS1. Schwartskoff was within visual of Bagdad and could have gone in with a division of tanks and taken out Sadam the first time. And he should have. *sigh*

There is all sorts of things to say for and against it. There are plenty of books about it as is. Anything I add to it would be redundant. Hell, I was never for going over there in the first place.

That being said, I think they should stay there long enough that it is stable...ish. As stable as that area will EVER be. We pull out right this second and the area will collapse into something worse than what it is now.
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-11-02 21:31 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
You know I am an ex-soldier, right? Military police.

Yes, of course.

Schwartskoff was within visual of Bagdad and could have gone in with a division of tanks and taken out Sadam the first time. And he should have. *sigh*

Honestly, I think we would have just ended up in exactly the same mess we're in now. You've read what Bush Sr. had written and seen what Schwarzkopf said about going into Baghdad in 91, yes?

We pull out right this second and the area will collapse into something worse than what it is now.

My belief is that if we stay, then believe it or not, it's actually going to get EVEN WORSE. Our choices are pull out now and let the Iraqi government try and work things out on its own (once we're gone, the UN will be a million times more willing to help)... or else we stay, and things will continue to get worse and worse until it really is the next Vietnam.

I'm all for cleaning up our own messes. However, my view is that we are the bull in the china shop right, and nothing we can do with our clumsy hoofs or sharp horns will put all those mountains of broken teapots back together again. We can't win, and it's better not to even try and play this game. The only thing we're doing is throwing away soldier's lives for no reason.
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McKavian
  User: mckavian
  Date: 2006-11-03 00:32 (UTC)
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My belief is that if we stay, then believe it or not, it's actually going to get EVEN WORSE.

I agree 100%. But we need to withdraw in an orderly fashion so that way there is no power vacuum. We need to leave and as fast as possible, but immediate withdrawal would be just as devistating if we stay there for the next six years.
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2006-11-03 05:40 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
I'm cool with it taking three months for us to finally get every last man off the ground. I mean, there are what, 130,000 soldiers there?

Problem is, I'm not seeing any kind of withdrawl happening.
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McKavian
  User: mckavian
  Date: 2006-11-03 10:24 (UTC)
  Subject:   (no subject)
Me neither.

I wonder how history will paint Bush as president....and us for leting him.
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MikeRo
  User: mrothermel
  Date: 2006-11-03 00:52 (UTC)
  Subject:   Chicago Suicide
Sounds like a Chicago Suicide,

Victim is found face down with stab wounds
in thier back. Yep, definitely a suicide.

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