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Ben Cantrick
  Date: 2008-07-17 14:12
  Subject:   HEALTH CARE: UR DOIN IT RONG.
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Despite spending $230m an hour on healthcare, Americans live shorter lives than citizens of almost every other developed country. And while it has the second-highest income per head in the world, the United States ranks 42nd in terms of life expectancy.

These are some of the startling conclusions from a major new report which attempts to explain why the world's number-one economy has slipped to 12th place - from 2nd in 1990 - in terms of human development.

The American Human Development Report, which applies rankings of health, education and income to the US, paints a surprising picture of a country that spends well over $5bn each day on healthcare - more per person than any other country.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/jul/17/internationalaidanddevelopment.usa

I don't know exactly what's wrong with US health care. I'm sure it's not just one single thing. But I do know that if we pay more than anyone else for health care, we sure as hell ought to be doing wayyyy the fuck better than 42nd place in life expectancy.

At this point, I think we should just shake the whole system up and see what happens. How much worse can we possibly do than we are now?
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  User: randomchris
  Date: 2008-07-17 20:37 (UTC)
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I have a feeling that per-head expenditure might include plastic surgery and dental work, and I'm fairly sure (given how much doctors there earn) that the US charges the most for healthcare of any nation. So highest spending per head would not necessarily equate into largest amount of healthcare per head.

The stat at the end was the scariest - 5% of the world's population but 24% of its prisoners?!?
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  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2008-07-17 20:45 (UTC)
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"The stat at the end was the scariest - 5% of the world's population but 24% of its prisoners?!?"

Does that include "off-shore" prisons too?

-l
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2008-07-17 21:49 (UTC)
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5% of the world's population but 24% of its prisoners?!?

Even worse, probably half of them are non-violent offenders. They're in jail only because they sold drugs. Which, while it's not a great thing, does probably not deserve a 25-to-life sentence. :P

I would say, "You'd think we'd learn that drug prohibition doesn't work", except... No, I would NOT think that we'd learn. We don't learn. We're far too fucking stupid. Plus, weed funds terrorism don'tcha know!!
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Ashfae
  User: ashfae
  Date: 2008-07-17 21:45 (UTC)
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I don't know exactly what's wrong with US health care.

You only get it if you have money. Starts from that and goes downhill from there.
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  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2008-07-17 22:50 (UTC)
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I'd say a large part of it has to do with the fact that we don't spend the money intelligently. We spend a shit ton of money addressing symptoms of the issues described in the article (healthcare, education, childcare) rather than the core problems.

An example is, we wind up treating a lot of medical issues that are the *result* of poor nutritional and dietary habits. Our medical care, then, has to deal with a lifetime of poor health choices and are expected to perform miracles overnight to a problem that's built up for decades in a single person.


-J
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Coinneach Fitzpatrick
  User: scarybaldguy
  Date: 2008-07-17 23:29 (UTC)
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We die early because we eat and work ourselves into an early grave. That's not a failure of the US health care system, it's a failure of our MUST-ACHIEVE-SUCCESS-AT-ALL-COSTS culture.
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Ben Cantrick
  User: mackys
  Date: 2008-07-18 18:54 (UTC)
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The Japanese eat almost exactly the same amount of food we do, but with much less carbs, and more evil protein. The latter is one of the healthiest nations in the world, the former one of the unhealthiest.

The Japanese also walk and bicycle a lot more than we do here in America. Much higher density cities makes that a realistic option in Japan. Not so much here.

Still, I think you're right about the carbs thing. Too much carb is bad, and we definitely eat too much carb.
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  User: (Anonymous)
  Date: 2008-07-21 20:33 (UTC)
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It really depends on what kind of carbs you're having. Brown rice is better than white rice and whole wheat is better than having white bread since whole grains tend to be a more complex carbohydrate. A big problem about America and many other industrialized nations is having refined, synthesized products where there's more chemicals than pure, natural ingredients for purposes of being able to keep stuff on the shelves more.

Sure, twinkies MAY last through a nuclear holocaust, but do you really want to put that into your body? Heck, even mexican coca cola is better for you than american coca-cola due to the fact american coke uses high fructose corn syrup.

Save the non-perishables for time of need and stick with as much natural stuff as you can, it'll be far better on your system than all of this crap we call food in the world. We'd all be a bit healthier too most likely and wouldn't have to deal with as much high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and whatever else.

-Erica
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